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Federal’s new 7mm Backcountry
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KurtM
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I'm reminded of a saying Col. Cooper had for such things... "An unnatural preoccupation with inconsequential increments". There are plenty of good 7mm s that launch bullets in and around this velocity level, don't really need another flavor, but take that for what it's worth as I'm not a "long range guy". I can shoot well enough, and I've won a few of these blue steel ranch shoots, but I don't stay up on it, and I'm not really into it. 308 and 300 WM always did everything I needed.
I haven't watched the video yet or read up on it (I think I've had 5 emails from influencers about it) but having a round that can't be reloaded didn't fair well for Remington and Sig.
Remy Warren's email said it was claiming a 170 class bullet @3k from a 20". Pretty sure I can get close to or match that with the 7PRC if I had some Reloader 26 or used N570?
It will be interesting to see how well it does. Federal tends to do things better than Winchester and Browning so...
Remy Warren's email said it was claiming a 170 class bullet @3k from a 20". Pretty sure I can get close to or match that with the 7PRC if I had some Reloader 26 or used N570?
It will be interesting to see how well it does. Federal tends to do things better than Winchester and Browning so...
Ndenway
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Read a little about it, sounds good, but not enough to buy rifle & reloading components to replace my 7remmag.
Kinda like the 360buckhammer I was interested in, I shot one, it was pretty decent but & $1k+ for rifle & reloading components made me just want to stick with my 45/70.
same as the 6.506, $400+ for the barrel assembly, when for a few hundred more I can buy a basic 6.5creed rifle.
Kinda like the 360buckhammer I was interested in, I shot one, it was pretty decent but & $1k+ for rifle & reloading components made me just want to stick with my 45/70.
same as the 6.506, $400+ for the barrel assembly, when for a few hundred more I can buy a basic 6.5creed rifle.
Here is another good video on it. I stand corrected on reloading the cases. Joseph claim's they averaged around 6 loadings before they had split necks. That said, I would be money those cases are double or triple the cost of match brass. Maybe not?
I have never hunting Elk, Moose or bigger game like that. I'd love to one day, but the round is really not a giant leap over a good 20" 7 PRC. I doubt I'd ever jump on it.
I have never hunting Elk, Moose or bigger game like that. I'd love to one day, but the round is really not a giant leap over a good 20" 7 PRC. I doubt I'd ever jump on it.
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I would say that was a good decision. the 45-70 will be around long after the .360 fades off if it does. I love mine, but it's a 150 yard deer killer at best. I can't see taking game past that. The 45-70 out performs it sub or super. I bought mine for a very specific purpose and it fits really well. It's weird and I identify with it.
For hunting purposes, my 30-30, 270 Win, or 308 will do the job just fine for deer. I now have the opportunity for elk hunting on a regular basis, and I plan on sticking with my 30-06. I’m not near as knowledgeable as some of you guys, but I don’t see a need for another new caliber in my world.
JCann
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The premise of the this round is +/- 3,000fps out of a 20” barrel on a non-magnum long action 0.470 bolt face. It’s being marketed to back country hunters and those who use cans when hunting. Personally I don’t see an extra 4” of barrel length being an issue on an elk or sheep hunt. I understand if you want to run a can and want a shorter barrel and not sacrifice speed with a shorter barrel. With most rifles, you won’t see its best potential unless you’re reloading and I don’t know if this round is using some type of blended proprietary powder or an off the shelf powder. The factory ammo had such high ES/SD it only had a 25% hit probability at range. This could be due to something inherent with the alloy in the case or maybe it’s just Federal ammo.
I would like to see how fast it could push a 190gr in a 26/27” barrel
I would like to see how fast it could push a 190gr in a 26/27” barrel
Ndenway
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Yes the 45/70 is fine.
I've taken game with it, no better or worse than any other caliber I've taken game with, it does have a lot more "kick" to the shoulder using my 425gr ranchdog bullet hunting load, which powerwise really isn't needed for deer or hog sized game.
I just don't have a 35cal rifle and was intrested with the 360, after shooting one & crunching the numbers the worth of want isn't going to fill the need spot.
As I posted above the 7mmbackcountry doesn't provide enough to add to/replace my 7remmag.
Looks like Bergara is getting on board with a factory offering in this cartridge too.
JCann
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Is it a 20” barrel
No clue. Just just posted a picture to their socials saying the caliber was coming
JCann
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Well, give shooters 175gr at 3,000fps out of a 20” tube and they’ll want 3,250fps out of a 26” tube. The hell with fire cracking and throat erosion, barrels are disposable.
I wonder what the annealing process is on the case with it’s different alloy
