Quick question, is height over bore still a consideration with long travel modern glass? I just mounted a 34 mm tube in high rings on my old shooter. It’s comfortable, but to my old Fudd eye it looks pretty dang high.
I personally mount then low as possible. But it is not necessary. Check this out from MDTQuick question, is height over bore still a consideration with long travel modern glass? I just mounted a 34 mm tube in high rings on my old shooter. It’s comfortable, but to my old Fudd eye it looks pretty dang high.
If you are running 0 MOA rings or base (yes). But add a 20 to 40 plus MOA of cant then it’s no problem. Finger out how much extra you have left in the scope. Then add the appropriate amount of cant in the base or rings. I would do base before rings when adding cant.The one place it does make a difference is if you are setting a rifle up for maximum point blank range. It will change your near zero point to sight in at. I like to set up rifles that use medium range cartridges like 300BO or 7.62x39 for MPBR. You can go here https://shooterscalculator.com/point-blank-range.php and play around with the hight over bore numbers and see how it changes.
Just spitballing through the calculator, I may be committing a horrendous fashion faux pas but it’s not going to knock the earth off it’s axis.
That’s the way I’ve always done it, as close to the bore line as possible while maintaining total clearance. Now days with all these stocks and chassis having adjustable combs I wonder if it was all much ado about nothing. I’m currently looking at 3.5ish above the bore. According to to the calculator it’s 53-260 some odd zero. Since it’s not a meat gun dialing dope is kind of the expectation.I like em low as possible. My main concerns are clearance between optic and base and objective and barrel. Most of my scoped rifles have a 20-30moa base. My next consideration is cheek wield and my eye lining up with the crosshairs. But all that said I like em low as possible. Lol.
Here’s one I mounted yesterday. Lines up good with my cheek wield and clears everything.
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I think if I had it to do over again I might go Mil. But I can only say that in hindsight. I could be wrong but I think the mil system would be better once I got Moa washed out of my brain. The problem is I own many Moa scopes. I don’t want a mix. Sooo for me to be happy I’d have to sell all my Moa variants and replace them with mil. That’d cost me quite a few hundreds in losses. So I just keep ordering Moa. This is my second ep5. I’ve had one on a Bergara b14r for a year. I can’t complain. I dial that 22 from 50 to 400 a bunch and the scope repeats. Also holding off the reticle works great. I get along with it.@Cowcatcher, I see you got your EP5 in MOA. Are you resisting assimilation into the Cult of the Mil radian? I think faster in MOA myself, but the maffs on out there seems easier in mils.
I’m real curious to hear your thoughts on that optic.
Don’t worry all my scopes are MOA. I can dial out to 1k with them. I might try a mil scope the next one I buy.I think if I had it to do over again I might go Mil. But I can only say that in hindsight. I could be wrong but I think the mil system would be better once I got Moa washed out of my brain. The problem is I own many Moa scopes. I don’t want a mix. Sooo for me to be happy I’d have to sell all my Moa variants and replace them with mil. That’d cost me quite a few hundreds in losses. So I just keep ordering Moa. This is my second ep5. I’ve had one on a Bergara b14r for a year. I can’t complain. I dial that 22 from 50 to 400 a bunch and the scope repeats. Also holding off the reticle works great. I get along with it.
I put everything at 1.5" over rail on anything with a monolithic rail...this means all gas guns and all bolt guns with a riser/adjustable buttstock and a chassis. Why? Because this is an actual standard by the military...namely Army and SOCOM. That means everything is easier to set up and line up. I don't use this height for ballistic calculation.Quick question, is height over bore still a consideration with long travel modern glass? I just mounted a 34 mm tube in high rings on my old shooter. It’s comfortable, but to my old Fudd eye it looks pretty dang high.
It was Mil that killed Ken! That’s why I prefer Moa.