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These are next on my list of wants. I have very little experience with Range finding Bino's. Any one use these yet?
Leupold BX-4 Range HD TBR/W 10x42mm
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I'd have to use on for a day to see if it's worth it. It's not a matter of just ranging things and oohs and ahs. You want some target discrimination (discriminating target range from background range which is the most common issue in ranging a target and missing by a mile), a narrow beam divergence, and what the reflectance is on a Lambertian surface (google it). You could just ask Leupold directly for that info. All that said, it's easy for companies to hide all that in the noise and just shoot large high reflectance targets and say "look how awesome this is".
Looking at their listed specs WRT deer range, they look pretty good. I'd probably drop 20% off their advertised ranges though for positive range. Their max ranges for low reflectance targets (like a deer) are usually a 50%-70% probability with many companies. High reflectance targets like houses, giant rock faces, trailer parks, etc will be more accurate. This is another question you can ask them. There's a measured amount of snake oil and hooey with a lot of these but once you understand, you'll be good. As far as the ballistics, I don't use companies' home grown ballistic programs. I've found that they aren't worth messing with for the most part, but that's a personal decision. As an LRF Bino, it looks pretty good overall, but like I said, I'd need it for a day.
I use a Leica 3500.com LRF. It's probably the best commercial handheld you can get. Leica's Geovid binos are really good too and both are a little spendy but way worth it.
The Geovid with ballistics uses AB so you can connect to a Garmin or Kestrel. It's also twice as much as the Leupold, so there is some decision making required for that one.
FYI: See the Leica specs compared to the Leupold specs. The Leica looks like an engineer or a user listed them and the Leupold looks like a sales pitch.
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Looking at their listed specs WRT deer range, they look pretty good. I'd probably drop 20% off their advertised ranges though for positive range. Their max ranges for low reflectance targets (like a deer) are usually a 50%-70% probability with many companies. High reflectance targets like houses, giant rock faces, trailer parks, etc will be more accurate. This is another question you can ask them. There's a measured amount of snake oil and hooey with a lot of these but once you understand, you'll be good. As far as the ballistics, I don't use companies' home grown ballistic programs. I've found that they aren't worth messing with for the most part, but that's a personal decision. As an LRF Bino, it looks pretty good overall, but like I said, I'd need it for a day.
I use a Leica 3500.com LRF. It's probably the best commercial handheld you can get. Leica's Geovid binos are really good too and both are a little spendy but way worth it.
The Geovid with ballistics uses AB so you can connect to a Garmin or Kestrel. It's also twice as much as the Leupold, so there is some decision making required for that one.
FYI: See the Leica specs compared to the Leupold specs. The Leica looks like an engineer or a user listed them and the Leupold looks like a sales pitch.
Leica Geovid Pro 10 x 42
The Leica Geovid Pro 10x42 is designed to be the most compact and powerful rangefinder binoculars in the premium class, featuring world-leading Applied Ballistics® software and a extremely precise Class 1 laser.
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BX-4 Range HD TBR/W 10x42mm
When speed is paramount, there’s no substitute for a range-finding binocular. The BX-4 Range HD TBR®/W 10x42mm fuses our DNA® engine and ballistics software with the optical performance diehard hunters and shooters demand.
www.leupold.com
A buddy of mine has this one and when I’ve shot with him it’s always performed very well. When we were shooting 1 mile we didn’t have any issues ranging off the steel gong. If the majority of your shooting is at a range off a bench I wouldn’t buy a range finder with applied ballistic, I don’t see the need.
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The Fury ends up being about 150 cheaper than the Leupold.
